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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.02 17:52:00 -
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Null made AC boats completely obsolete. It could use a nerf imho.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.03 02:26:00 -
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For those that wanted it... A comparison of an Ion Megathron and d650 Tempest with transversal comparing the 50% tracking nerfed Null and the current Null ammo:
50% Tracking
Current
It pretty much looks like a Null Mega still out damages the Barrage Tempest within scram range even with 50% less tracking.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.03 02:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Itaro Flagg
Well, the nerf isn't just to tracking I believe. I think there is also a small decrease in range and a small decrease in damage.
Hopefully, after calculating in those changes as well, the graph will look a bit better.
Not unless it has changed since these screenshots were made.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.03 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mila Prestoc
500 Traversal Graph
Even at 500m/s transversal (my graphs used 300 m/s) the Megathron outdamages the Tempest inside 20km more often than not. Realistically I'm not sure what can be done to Null to balance it vs. Autocannons, but I suspect that changing the base range/falloff of blasters themselves might do it. I doubt that would go over well though.
On the other hand, the 50% tracking on Null will hurt the Hyperion more than it hurts the Megathron due to the Megathrons 37.5% tracking bonus.... although I'm not sure there is much of a reason to use the Hyperion over the Megathron anyways so its kind of a moot point.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.03 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Null allowed me to shoot back, now is that wrong?
If i hadnt bring it, i would be dead.
Allows you to shoot back and do more damage... so whats the point of flying an AC Tempest when your range advantage becomes completely meaningless due to Null? Blasters with Null need a range nerf.
Regarding the tracking issue even with a 50% penalty the Megathron out damages the AC Tempest within 20km more often than not. Check the graphs above.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.03 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Huh? Last time i checked your acs were doing more dps than blasters... only problem is that you can fit only 6. Maybe you should start fitting something useful on those 2 remaining slots... oh wait 2x nosf for t3h lazy?
Don't forget to fit "something useful" on that remaining high slot on the Megathron as well...
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.03 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Azerrad InExile on 03/11/2006 20:30:11
Originally by: Butter Dog
The case is quite simple: Null may have needed a slight 'balance' but tracking is NOT it.
Range is clearly what everyone has the problem with, so a slight reduction in the range and falloff bonuses would give the AutoPest its niche in the 15-20km range (which is very nearly already has anyway), without killing Null stone dead.
Honestly I'd rather see Null be left alone and the falloff of blasters cut in half. Going by the description (Note: its generally a bad idea to balance based on descriptions) of blasters: Originally by: Description of Blasters
No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters, but due to the rapid dispersion of the containment field, it also has the worst range of all turrets.
The range on small and medium blasters would probably have to be upped by a bit to compensate, but this would still make blasters own at short range without having to introduce a tracking or range nerf to Null to allow autocannons a chance to compete.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
AutoPests outdamage megathrons using Null from about 16km outward, which is how it should be.
Graphs say otherwise: Ion Mega vs. 650 Autopest
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